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I Seem To Be Missing Something ... I'Ve Only Got One Task Running To Train A Segmentation Model On My Local Machine, And In A Few Days It'S Hit Over 1.15M Api Calls. It Looks Like It'S Sending Every Single Console Output ... Are There Settings To Control

I seem to be missing something ... I've only got one task running to train a segmentation model on my local machine, and in a few days it's hit over 1.15M API calls. It looks like it's sending every single console output ... are there settings to control what gets logged? I only care about the results from each epoch. I don't need each line of the console posted up ( that's 99% of the API usage right there ). I can't find a way to prevent this and can see each line in the clearml console that's already in my terminal window ( each tick in the progress bar for each epoch seems to be an API call to post that local console output to clearml ). Any tips to stop console from getting sent?

  
  
Posted 2 years ago
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might be a feature request then, as ya, having transparency into something we are charged for would be nice. At this point, I have zero idea what is driving this usage and just want to make sure the costs for training do not bloat too much. I personally am just using ClearML as a central dashboard for a few people. I don't need it to be live data, I just need a rough overview of progress. Even if it only posted updates to ClearML once an hour, that is honestly fine.

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

Correct

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

@<1523701087100473344:profile|SuccessfulKoala55> You are my hero !!! This is EXACTLY what I needed !!!

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

I had no idea it was going to do that and sent your servers over 1.4M API hits unintentionally

Yeah, that is way too much, I think relates to the frequency it updates the console 😞

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

I'm not sure on the frequency it updates though

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

hmmm, this is just a personal project, honestly was just hoping this would let me take the results of each epoch and put it in a central dashboard. Having this generate 1M+ api calls and only being like 1/4 of the way though training is a bit much. Current pricing is $1/100K API calls at the PRO tear, which I am on ... so it would be like another $50 just in API calls at this pace 😞 Would love to just cap it at a fixed amount for a month for API calls.

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

I guess last followup question, is there a way to cap costs?

Scale tier ? (I know it is not per usage, but it is probably more than 15$ per user 🙂 )

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

So, might be in the minority here, but seems like capturing stdout and sending that over to clearml via API should be disabled by default. Like I get maybe capturing stderr, but stdout? In a training scenario, that's MILLIONS of API calls just in progress bar indicators, right? Like it might actually be better for the ClearML servers just in general to make the user turn that on if they want it, otherwise we're just blasting your servers. In my case, I did not even know it was sending that over until I got into digging where these API calls were coming from, and saw the CONSOLE tab in clearml that had every single line of stdout captured.
image

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

One single experiment using the code above. I have no idea how many scalars I am sending since as far as I can tell, I am not setting anything specific to define what I am sending over to ClearML, literally first time using YoloV8 or ClearML. Just using the super basic python to run.

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

Is there a place in ClearML that shows Platform Usage? Like, what's actually taking up the API calls?

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

Thanks, will do. Heck, for my use case, I only need like once every 10 minutes.

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

this one, right ? report_period_sec in ~/clearml.conf correct ?

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

is number of calls performed, not what those calls were.

oh, yes this is just a measure of how many API calls are sent.
It does not really matter which ones

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

My training is on roughly 50 classes as a subset of the Open Images Dataset for Segmentation

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

Math checks out that if I was generating around 140K a day, and this had been running for 9 days, it had 1.2M when I caught it . So I think the next day after I shut it down I was seeing previous days numbers before shut down added . And another 24 hours it barely changed, so ya, it was 100% the stdout logging .

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

I would love to be able to fine tune this as needed, but in my profile I only see a Billings & Usage, and it states at the top that "Usage data is updated once every day" ... and even then, all the shows under "Platform Usage" is number of calls performed, not what those calls were.

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

each epoch runs about 55 minutes, and that screenshot I posted earlier kind of show the logs for the rest of the info being output, if you wanted to check that out

I thought you disabled the stdout log. no?

Maybe ClearML is using

tensorboard

in ways that I can fine tune? I

You can open your TB and see, every report there is logged into clearml

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

FYI, found log_stdout in that same setting and default for that was true so set that to false so it would not log all stdout & stderr

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

If you do not have a lot of workers, that I would guess console outputs

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

But I will try to set the reduce the number of log reports first

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

Welp, it's been a day with the new settings, and stats went up 140K for API calls 😢 ... going to check again tomorrow to see if any of that was spill over from yesterday

  
  
Posted 2 years ago