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I Dont Exactly Know How To Ask For Help On This... Nor Have A Reproducible Minimal Example... I Downgraded Back To 1.15.1 From 1.16.2 And Have The Same Issue There. I Have A Pipeline That'S Repeatedly Failing To Complete. It Correctly Marks Things As Cach

i dont exactly know how to ask for help on this... nor have a reproducible minimal example...
I downgraded back to 1.15.1 from 1.16.2 and have the same issue there.
I have a pipeline that's repeatedly failing to complete. it correctly marks things as cached, and then just doesnt execute the last step. The task stays "Running" forever, but disappears - the worker just has a process that dies. CPU/RAM aren't running out or anything like that at all. Prior runs of this pipeline worked just fine (less cached then too).

Has anyone seen this kind of "disappearing / zombie task" state before? It's very perplexing to me.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago
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did you take a look at my connect.sh script? I dont think it's a problem since only the controller task is the problem.

Is there some sort of culling procedure that kills tasks by any chance? the lack of logs makes me think it's something like that.

I can also try different agent versions.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

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Posted 3 months ago

I have tried other queues, they're all running the same container.
so far the only thing reliable is pipe.start_locally()

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

enqueuing. pipe.start("default") but I think it's picking up on my local clearml install instead of what I told it to use.

my tasks have this in them... what's the equivalent for pipeline controllers?
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Posted 3 months ago

clearml_agent v1.8.1
  
  
Posted 3 months ago

nothing came up in the logs. all 200's

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

Hi @<1689446563463565312:profile|SmallTurkey79> , when this happens, do you see anything in the API server logs? How is the agent running, on top of K8s or bare metal? Docker mode or venv?

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

trying to run the experiment that kept failing right now, watching logs (they go by fast)... will try to spot anything anamolous

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

do you have any STATUS REASON under the INFO section of the controller task?

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

I will ask internally about this

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

thank you

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

but maybe here's a clue. after hanging like that for a while... it seems like the agent restarts (the container it runs in does not)
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Posted 3 months ago

that's the final screenshot. it just shows a bunch of normal "launching ..." steps, and then stops all the sudden.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

I think i've narrowed this down to the ssh connection approach.

regarding the container that runs the pipeline:

  • when I made it stop using autossh tunnels and instead put it on the same machine as the clearml server + used docker network host mode, suddenly the problematic pipeline started completing.
    it's just so odd that the pipeline controller task is the only one with an issue. the modeling / data-creation tasks really all seem to complete consistently just fine.

so yeah, best guess now is that its unrelated to clearml verison but rather to the connectivity of the pipeline controller task to the api server.

when I run this pipeline controller locally (also using the same ssh tunnel approach for comms), the pipeline completes just fine. so it's something specific about how its working inside the container vs on my machine, it seems.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

default queue is served with (containerized + custom entrypoint) venv workers (agent services just wasn't working great for me, gave up)

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

would it be on the pipeline task itself then, since that's what's disappearing? that likely the case

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

let me downgrade my install of clearml and try again.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

clearml-server-1.15.1, clearml-1.16.2
  
  
Posted 3 months ago

None here's how I'm establishing worker-server (and client-server) comms fwiw

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

can you share the logs of the controller?

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

yeah this problem seems to happen on 1.15.1 and 1.16.2 as well, prior runs were on the same version even. It just feels like it happens absolutely randomly (but often).
just happened again to me.

The pipeline is constructed from tasks, it basically does map/reduce. prepare data -> model training + evaluation -> backtesting performance summary.

It figures out how wide to go by parsing the date range supplied as input parameter. Been running stuff like this for months but only recently did things just start... vanishing like this.

Would appreciate any help. Really need this to be more robust to make the case for company-wide adoption.
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Posted 3 months ago

Hi @<1689446563463565312:profile|SmallTurkey79> !
Prior runs of this pipeline worked just fine What SDK version were you using for the prior runs? Does this still happen if you revert to that version?
Can you provide a script that imitates what you are doing?
In the pipeline you are running, are you creating new tasks/pipelines/datasets?

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

worker thinks its in venv mode but is containerized .
apiserver is docker compose stack

ill check logs next time i see it .

currently rushing to ship a model out, so I've just been running smaller experiments slowly hoping to avoid the situation . fingers crossed .

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

the workers connect to the clearml server via ssh-tunnels, so they all talk to "localhost" despite being deployed in different places. each task creates artifacts and metrics that are used downstream

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

would it be on the pipeline task itself then, since that's what's disappearing?
I will do some experiment comparisons and see if there are package diffs. thanks for the tip.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

do you have the agent logs that is supposed to run your pipeline? Maybe there is a clue there. I would also suggest to try enqueuing the pipeline to some other queue, maybe even run the agent on your on machine if you do not already and see what happens

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

hoping this really is a 1.16.2 issue. fingers crossed. at this point more pipes are failing than not.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

damn. I can't believe it. It disappeared again despite having 1.15.1 be the task's clearml version.
I'm going to try running the pipeline locally.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

Hi @<1689446563463565312:profile|SmallTurkey79> ! I will take a look at this and try to replicate the issue. In the meantime, I suggest you look into other dependencies you are using. Maybe some dependency got upgraded and the upgrade now triggers this behaviour in clearml.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

(the "magic" of the env detection is nice but man... it has its surprises)

  
  
Posted 3 months ago
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