I took a look

• I think the Outerbounds extension (the one in my screenshot) is currently closed source. That makes sense to me. A bit sad because it is highly similar.
• Another example could be the AWS ToolKit extension. But sadly, it's hardly a "minimal example". I was thinking it's relevant because it uses your local ~/.aws/ folder, which is similar to what we'd want to do.

I think it will work. There's a lot of really useful code in the black extension. I'm recruiting people now to join in on Friday. I'm actually very confident about it after messing around.

possibly cheaper on the cloud (Lambda vs EC2 instance)

Whoa, are you saying there's an autoscaler that doesn't use EC2 instances? I may be misunderstanding, but that would be very cool.

Maybe I should have said: my plan is to use AWS StepFunctions where a single task in the DAG is an entire ClearML pipeline . The non-ClearML steps would orchestrate putting messages into a queue, doing retry logic, and triggering said pipeline.

I think at some point, there has to be some amount of...

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Can you set these to any strings and have them function as API keys?

Caching can be a reason. Say you do some heavy data loading / processing in step 1. Now you're developing step 2.

It'd be nice not to have to re-run Step 1 every time you want to test a change to step 2.

You could find a way to simply write your output of step1 to disk and do everything in one step, or you could let ClearML handle that caching for you--with the added benefit that others collaborating remotely can also use the outputs of steps you've cached with ClearML

https://share.descript.com/view/g0SLQTN6kAk

I took a stab at writing an automated trigger to handle this. The goal is: anytime a pipeline succeeds or fails, let AWS know so that the input records can be placed onto a retry queue (or not)

I'm trying to get a trigger to work in general, and then I'll add the more complex AWS logic. But I seem to be missing a step somewhere:

I wrote a file called set_triggers.py

from clearml.automation.trigger import TriggerScheduler

TRIGGER_SCHEDULER = TriggerScheduler()

from pprint import...

Totally worked!

You know, you could probably add some immortal containers to the docker-compose.yml that use images with mongodump and the ES equivalent installed.

The container(s) could have a bash script with a while loop in it that sleeps for 30 minutes and then does a backup. If you installed the AWS CLI inside, it could even take care of uploading to S3.

I like this idea, because docker-compose.yml could make sure that if the backup container ever dies, it would be restarted.

Oh interesting. Is the hope that doing that would somehow result in being able to use those credentials to make authenticated API calls?

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Oh there's parallelization as well. You could have step 1 gather the data, and then fan out to N parallel steps that all do different things with the data, for example hyper parameter tuning

Earlier in the thread they mentioned that the agents are all resilient. So no ongoing tasks should be lost. I imagine even in a large organization, you could afford 5-10 minutes of downtime at 2AM or something.

That said, you'd only have 1 backup per day which could be a big deal depending on the experiments your running. You might want more than that.

*or Gateway

I did a post on Linkedin with several slides on how I plan to build it here

Oh wow. If this works, that will be insanely cool. Like, I guess what I'm going for is that if I specify "username: test" and "password: test" in that file, that I can specify "api.access_key: test" and "api.secret_key: test" in the clearml.conf used for CI. I'll give it a try tonight!

When you run the docker-compose.yml on an EC2 instance, you can configure user login for the ClearML webserver. But the files API is still open to the world, right? (and same with the backend?)

We could solve this by placing the EC2 instance into a VPN.

One disadvantage to that approach is it becomes annoying to reach the model registry from outside the VPN, like if you have a deployment pipeline based in GitHub Actions. Or if you wanted to trigger a ClearML pipeline from a VPC that isn...

I did a quick local experiment and observed that credentials created from the UI indeed become invalid if you delete the ClearML volumes.

• starting docker-compose locally
• creating a set of credentials from the UI
• hardcodign those credentials into the docker-compose file
• restarting
• the agent-services container started up and successfully became a registered worker
• I killed the docker-compose and deleted the volume folders
• restarted the docker-compose (with the same hard-coded...

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Yay! Man, I want to do ClearML with "hard mode" (non-enterprise, self-hosted) first, before trying to sell BENlabs (my work) on it. I could see us paying for enterprise to get the Hyper Datasets and Vault features if our scientists/developers fall in love with it--they probably will if we can get them to adopt it since right now we have a homemade system that isn't nearly as nice as ClearML.

@<1523701087100473344:profile|SuccessfulKoala55> how exactly do you configure ClearML to use the cr...

I'll search around some more when I get time. I have no idea, but it feels like ClearML has already done the hard part which is creating clearml-session in the first place.

This could be a really low-hanging OSS contribution that could make a real impact 😄 .

That is great! This is all the motivation I needed to decide to do a POC at some point.

Oh awesome @<1523701132025663488:profile|SlimyElephant79> ! If you want to take a look, I made a big list of things to add. I'm working on a docker-compose.yaml file so we can have a good local development environment.

There's a lot of room to improve this from cleaning up the code to adding features on the list.

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At the time that I run python aws_autoscaler.py --remote , that clearml-services worker is the only worker on the services queue. So it will be the worker that picks up the autoscaler task.

But the task seems to be failing on startup due to the CLEARML_API_HOST not being set, but it is set for the docker container that the agent is running on.

Here's the full autoscaler log where the failure happens if that's helpful.

But the extension will need credentials to connect to it.

Will do!

Man, I owe you lunch sometime @<1523701205467926528:profile|AgitatedDove14> . Thanks for being so detailed in your answers.

Okay! So the pipeline ID is really just a task ID. So cool!

Not sure I fully understand what you mean here...

Sorry, I'll try again. Here's an illustrated example with AWS Step Functions (pretend this is a ClearML pipeline). If the pipeline fails, I'd want to have a chance to do some logic to react to that. Maybe in a step called "on_pipeline_failed" or someth...

You have no idea what is committed to disk vs what is still contained in memory.

If you ran docker-compose down and allowed ES to gracefully shut down, would ES finish writing everything to disk, therefore guaranteeing that the backups wouldn't get corrupted?

I’d really prefer it was modular enough to use serving with any model registry

Oh that's interesting. To serve a model from MLflow, would you have to copy it over to ClearML first?

@<1594863216222015488:profile|ConvincingGrasshopper20> throwing this out there... would you want to make this with me at the Hackathon??