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I Dont Exactly Know How To Ask For Help On This... Nor Have A Reproducible Minimal Example... I Downgraded Back To 1.15.1 From 1.16.2 And Have The Same Issue There. I Have A Pipeline That'S Repeatedly Failing To Complete. It Correctly Marks Things As Cach

i dont exactly know how to ask for help on this... nor have a reproducible minimal example...
I downgraded back to 1.15.1 from 1.16.2 and have the same issue there.
I have a pipeline that's repeatedly failing to complete. it correctly marks things as cached, and then just doesnt execute the last step. The task stays "Running" forever, but disappears - the worker just has a process that dies. CPU/RAM aren't running out or anything like that at all. Prior runs of this pipeline worked just fine (less cached then too).

Has anyone seen this kind of "disappearing / zombie task" state before? It's very perplexing to me.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago
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Hi @<1689446563463565312:profile|SmallTurkey79> , when this happens, do you see anything in the API server logs? How is the agent running, on top of K8s or bare metal? Docker mode or venv?

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

worker thinks its in venv mode but is containerized .
apiserver is docker compose stack

ill check logs next time i see it .

currently rushing to ship a model out, so I've just been running smaller experiments slowly hoping to avoid the situation . fingers crossed .

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

trying to run the experiment that kept failing right now, watching logs (they go by fast)... will try to spot anything anamolous

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

nothing came up in the logs. all 200's

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

it happens consistently with this one task that really should be all cache.
I disabled cache in the final step and it seems to run now.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

damn, it just happened again... "queued" steps in the viz are actually complete. the pipeline task disappeared again without completion, logs mid-stream.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

Hi @<1689446563463565312:profile|SmallTurkey79> !
Prior runs of this pipeline worked just fine What SDK version were you using for the prior runs? Does this still happen if you revert to that version?
Can you provide a script that imitates what you are doing?
In the pipeline you are running, are you creating new tasks/pipelines/datasets?

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

yeah this problem seems to happen on 1.15.1 and 1.16.2 as well, prior runs were on the same version even. It just feels like it happens absolutely randomly (but often).
just happened again to me.

The pipeline is constructed from tasks, it basically does map/reduce. prepare data -> model training + evaluation -> backtesting performance summary.

It figures out how wide to go by parsing the date range supplied as input parameter. Been running stuff like this for months but only recently did things just start... vanishing like this.

Would appreciate any help. Really need this to be more robust to make the case for company-wide adoption.
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Posted 3 months ago

I really can't provide a script that matches exactly (though I do plan to publish something like this soon enough), but here's one that's quite close / similar in style:
None where I tried function-steps out instead, but it's a similar architecture for the pipeline (the point of the example was to show how to do a dynamic pipeline)

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

the workers connect to the clearml server via ssh-tunnels, so they all talk to "localhost" despite being deployed in different places. each task creates artifacts and metrics that are used downstream

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

Hi @<1689446563463565312:profile|SmallTurkey79> ! I will take a look at this and try to replicate the issue. In the meantime, I suggest you look into other dependencies you are using. Maybe some dependency got upgraded and the upgrade now triggers this behaviour in clearml.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

would it be on the pipeline task itself then, since that's what's disappearing?
I will do some experiment comparisons and see if there are package diffs. thanks for the tip.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

None here's how I'm establishing worker-server (and client-server) comms fwiw

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

would it be on the pipeline task itself then, since that's what's disappearing? that likely the case

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

ugh. again. it launched all these tasks and then just died. logs go silent.
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Posted 3 months ago

can you share the logs of the controller?

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

that's the final screenshot. it just shows a bunch of normal "launching ..." steps, and then stops all the sudden.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

do you have any STATUS REASON under the INFO section of the controller task?

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

N/A (still shows as running despite Abort being sent)

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

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Posted 3 months ago

clearml-server-1.15.1, clearml-1.16.2
  
  
Posted 3 months ago

odd bc I thought I was controlling this... maybe I'm wrong and the env is mis-set.
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Posted 3 months ago

are you running this locally or are you enqueueing the task (controller)?

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

enqueuing. pipe.start("default") but I think it's picking up on my local clearml install instead of what I told it to use.

my tasks have this in them... what's the equivalent for pipeline controllers?
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Posted 3 months ago

(the "magic" of the env detection is nice but man... it has its surprises)

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

let me downgrade my install of clearml and try again.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

default queue is served with (containerized + custom entrypoint) venv workers (agent services just wasn't working great for me, gave up)

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

hoping this really is a 1.16.2 issue. fingers crossed. at this point more pipes are failing than not.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

damn. I can't believe it. It disappeared again despite having 1.15.1 be the task's clearml version.
I'm going to try running the pipeline locally.

  
  
Posted 3 months ago

yeah locally it did run. I then ran another via UI spawned from the successful one, it showed cached steps and then refused to run the bottom one, disappearing again. No status message, no status reason. (not running... actually dead)
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