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Is There A Way To Save The Models Completely On The Clearml Server? It Seems That Clearml Server Does Not Store The Models Or Artifacts Itself, But They Are Stored Somewhere Else (E.G., Aws S3-Bucket) Or On My Local Machine And Clearml Server Is Only Sto

Is there a way to save the models completely on the ClearML server?

It seems that ClearML Server does not store the models or artifacts itself, but they are stored somewhere else (e.g., AWS S3-bucket) or on my local machine and ClearML Server is only storing configuration parameters and previews (e.g., when the artifact is a pandas dataframe). Is that right?

  
  
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I am not sure if it the fact the name of the file ends with .model is an issue - but that would be somewhat crazy design...

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

But we do use S3

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

But, I guess @<1523701070390366208:profile|CostlyOstrich36> wrote that in a different chat, right?

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

By the way, output_uri is also documented as part of the Task.init() docstring ( None )

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

Do you mean "exactly" as in "you finally got it" or in the sense of "yes, that was easy to miss"?

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

FWIW It’s also listed in other places @<1523704157695905792:profile|VivaciousBadger56> , e.g. None says:

In order to make sure we also automatically upload the model snapshot (instead of saving its local path), we need to pass a storage location for the model files to be uploaded to.
For example, upload all snapshots to an S3 bucket…

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

@<1523701083040387072:profile|UnevenDolphin73> : Thanks, but it does not mention the File Storage of "ClearML Hosted Server".

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

Exactly πŸ™‚

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

@<1523701087100473344:profile|SuccessfulKoala55> : That is the link I posted as well. But this should be mentioned also at places where it is about about the external or non-external storage. Also it should be mentioned everywhere we talk about models or artifacts etc. Not necessarily in details, but at least with a sentence and a link.

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

missing a configuration option

Which one, where? Any idea? I did not set output_uri - do I have to do that?

I am refering to

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

I have already been trying to contribute (have three pull requests), but honestly I feel it is a bit weird, that I need to update a documentation about something I do not understand, while I actually try to evaluate if ClearML is the right tool for our company...

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

"Messy" is putting it nicely.

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

@<1523704157695905792:profile|VivaciousBadger56> regrading: None
Is this a discussion or PR ?
(general ranting is saved for our slack channel πŸ™‚ )

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

We're certainly working hard on improving the documentation (and I do apologize for the frustrating experience)

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

@<1523701083040387072:profile|UnevenDolphin73> : From which URL is your most recent screenshot?

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

From the one you sent - None

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

@<1523701083040387072:profile|UnevenDolphin73> : How do you figure? In the past, my colleagues and I just shared the .zip file via email / MS Teams and it worked. So I don't think so.

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

We'll try to add referenced to that in other places as well πŸ‘

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

Heh, well, John wrote that in the first reply in this thread πŸ™‚
And in Task.init main documentation page (nowhere near the code), it says the following -
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Posted 2 years ago

@<1523704157695905792:profile|VivaciousBadger56> It seems like whatever you pickled in the zip file relies on some additional files that are not pickled.

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

We have the following, works fine (we also use internal zip packaging for our models):

model = OutputModel(task=self.task, name=self.job_name, tags=kwargs.get('tags', self.task.get_tags()), framework=framework)
model.connect(task=self.task, name=self.job_name)
model.update_weights(weights_filename=cc_model.save())
  
  
Posted 2 years ago

The documentation is messy, I’ve complained about it the in the past too πŸ™ˆ

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

@<1523701070390366208:profile|CostlyOstrich36>

My training outputs a model as a zip file. The way I save and load the zip file to make up my model is custom made (no library is directly used), because we invented the entire modelling ourselves. What I did so far:

output_model = OutputModel(task=..., config_dict={...}, name=f"...")
output_model.update_weights("C:\io__path\...", is_package=True)

and I am trying to load the model in a different Python process with

mymodel = task.models['output'][0]
mymodel = mymodel.get_local_copy(extract_archive=True, raise_on_error=True)

and I get in the clearml cache a . training.pt file, which seems to be some kind of archive. Inside I have two files named data.pkl and version and a folder with the two files named 86922176 and 86934640 .

I am not sure how to proceed after trying to use pickle, zip and joblib. I am kind of at a loss. I suspect, my original zip file might be somehow inside, but I am not sure.

Sure, we could simply use the generic artifacts sdk, but I would like to use the available terminological methods and functions.

How should I proceed?

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

Hi @<1523704157695905792:profile|VivaciousBadger56> , you can configure Task.init(..., output_uri=True) and this will save the models to the clearml file server

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

Well you could start by setting the output_uri to True in Task.init .

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

@<1523704157695905792:profile|VivaciousBadger56> I'm not sure I'm following you - is the issue not being able to upload to the ClearML server or to load the downloaded file?

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

@<1523701083040387072:profile|UnevenDolphin73>

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

@<1523701087100473344:profile|SuccessfulKoala55> : I referenced this conversation in the issue None

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

Either? πŸ™‚

  
  
Posted 2 years ago

Yes, you're correct, I misread the exception.
Maybe it hasn't completed uploading? At least for Datasets one needs to explicitly wait IIRC

  
  
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