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I Dont Exactly Know How To Ask For Help On This... Nor Have A Reproducible Minimal Example... I Downgraded Back To 1.15.1 From 1.16.2 And Have The Same Issue There. I Have A Pipeline That'S Repeatedly Failing To Complete. It Correctly Marks Things As Cach

i dont exactly know how to ask for help on this... nor have a reproducible minimal example...
I downgraded back to 1.15.1 from 1.16.2 and have the same issue there.
I have a pipeline that's repeatedly failing to complete. it correctly marks things as cached, and then just doesnt execute the last step. The task stays "Running" forever, but disappears - the worker just has a process that dies. CPU/RAM aren't running out or anything like that at all. Prior runs of this pipeline worked just fine (less cached then too).

Has anyone seen this kind of "disappearing / zombie task" state before? It's very perplexing to me.

  
  
Posted one month ago
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Hi @<1689446563463565312:profile|SmallTurkey79> ! I will take a look at this and try to replicate the issue. In the meantime, I suggest you look into other dependencies you are using. Maybe some dependency got upgraded and the upgrade now triggers this behaviour in clearml.

  
  
Posted one month ago

odd bc I thought I was controlling this... maybe I'm wrong and the env is mis-set.
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Posted one month ago

yeah, it just shows what I see in the Console, but then immediately goes back to polling for more work (so... instead of running backtest, it exits, no completion message)

  
  
Posted one month ago

damn. I can't believe it. It disappeared again despite having 1.15.1 be the task's clearml version.
I'm going to try running the pipeline locally.

  
  
Posted one month ago

do you have any STATUS REASON under the INFO section of the controller task?

  
  
Posted one month ago

worker thinks its in venv mode but is containerized .
apiserver is docker compose stack

ill check logs next time i see it .

currently rushing to ship a model out, so I've just been running smaller experiments slowly hoping to avoid the situation . fingers crossed .

  
  
Posted one month ago

damn, it just happened again... "queued" steps in the viz are actually complete. the pipeline task disappeared again without completion, logs mid-stream.

  
  
Posted one month ago

trying to run the experiment that kept failing right now, watching logs (they go by fast)... will try to spot anything anamolous

  
  
Posted one month ago

I have tried other queues, they're all running the same container.
so far the only thing reliable is pipe.start_locally()

  
  
Posted one month ago

nothing came up in the logs. all 200's

  
  
Posted one month ago

yeah this problem seems to happen on 1.15.1 and 1.16.2 as well, prior runs were on the same version even. It just feels like it happens absolutely randomly (but often).
just happened again to me.

The pipeline is constructed from tasks, it basically does map/reduce. prepare data -> model training + evaluation -> backtesting performance summary.

It figures out how wide to go by parsing the date range supplied as input parameter. Been running stuff like this for months but only recently did things just start... vanishing like this.

Would appreciate any help. Really need this to be more robust to make the case for company-wide adoption.
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Posted one month ago

(the "magic" of the env detection is nice but man... it has its surprises)

  
  
Posted one month ago

can you share the logs of the controller?

  
  
Posted one month ago

I will ask internally about this

  
  
Posted one month ago

clearml_agent v1.8.1
  
  
Posted one month ago

I think i've narrowed this down to the ssh connection approach.

regarding the container that runs the pipeline:

  • when I made it stop using autossh tunnels and instead put it on the same machine as the clearml server + used docker network host mode, suddenly the problematic pipeline started completing.
    it's just so odd that the pipeline controller task is the only one with an issue. the modeling / data-creation tasks really all seem to complete consistently just fine.

so yeah, best guess now is that its unrelated to clearml verison but rather to the connectivity of the pipeline controller task to the api server.

when I run this pipeline controller locally (also using the same ssh tunnel approach for comms), the pipeline completes just fine. so it's something specific about how its working inside the container vs on my machine, it seems.

  
  
Posted one month ago

when i run the pipe locally, im using the same connect.sh script as the workers are in order to poll the apiserver via the ssh tunnel.

  
  
Posted one month ago

thank you

  
  
Posted one month ago

did you take a look at my connect.sh script? I dont think it's a problem since only the controller task is the problem.

Is there some sort of culling procedure that kills tasks by any chance? the lack of logs makes me think it's something like that.

I can also try different agent versions.

  
  
Posted one month ago

ah. a clue! it came right below that but i guess out of order...
that id is the pipeline that failed
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Posted one month ago

it happens consistently with this one task that really should be all cache.
I disabled cache in the final step and it seems to run now.

  
  
Posted one month ago

are you running this locally or are you enqueueing the task (controller)?

  
  
Posted one month ago

N/A (still shows as running despite Abort being sent)

  
  
Posted one month ago

clearml-server-1.15.1, clearml-1.16.2
  
  
Posted one month ago

yeah locally it did run. I then ran another via UI spawned from the successful one, it showed cached steps and then refused to run the bottom one, disappearing again. No status message, no status reason. (not running... actually dead)
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Posted one month ago

Hi @<1689446563463565312:profile|SmallTurkey79> !
Prior runs of this pipeline worked just fine What SDK version were you using for the prior runs? Does this still happen if you revert to that version?
Can you provide a script that imitates what you are doing?
In the pipeline you are running, are you creating new tasks/pipelines/datasets?

  
  
Posted one month ago

the workers connect to the clearml server via ssh-tunnels, so they all talk to "localhost" despite being deployed in different places. each task creates artifacts and metrics that are used downstream

  
  
Posted one month ago

would it be on the pipeline task itself then, since that's what's disappearing?
I will do some experiment comparisons and see if there are package diffs. thanks for the tip.

  
  
Posted one month ago

None here's how I'm establishing worker-server (and client-server) comms fwiw

  
  
Posted one month ago

would it be on the pipeline task itself then, since that's what's disappearing? that likely the case

  
  
Posted one month ago
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