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A Suggestion. Sometimes Newcomers That Join An Existing Project That Uses Clearml Forget To Configure Their Clearml For The Organization'S Server Resulting In Them Launching Experiments To The Public Cloud Possibly With Sensitive Data - I Think That If Y

A suggestion.

Sometimes newcomers that join an existing project that uses ClearML forget to configure their ClearML for the organization's server resulting in them launching experiments to the public cloud possibly with sensitive data - I think that if you execute something to be sent to the public ClearML server you should explicitly have to confirm that this data is going to be public or have to explicitly set some kind of environment variable if you want to avoid this confirming message

  
  
Posted 3 years ago
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Hey, AFAIK, SDK version 1.1.0 disabled the demo server by default (still accessible by setting an envvar).
https://github.com/allegroai/clearml/releases/tag/1.1.0
Is this still an issue even in this version?

  
  
Posted 3 years ago

WackyRabbit7 basically starting v1.1 if you are running code without any configuration file, you will get an error (in contrast to previous versions where it defaulted to the demo-server)

  
  
Posted 3 years ago

Cool, didn't know it was disabled. This exact reason was why I created a wrapper over ClearML for my use so that people don't ever accidentally talk to demo server

  
  
Posted 3 years ago

well.. having the demo server by default lowers the effort threshold for trying ClearML and getting convinced it can deliver what it promises, and maybe test some simple custom use cases. I

This was exactly what we thought when we set it up in the first place 🙂
(I can't imagine the cost is an issue, probably maintenance/upgrades ...)
There is still support for the demo server, you just need to set the env key:
CLEARML_NO_DEFAULT_SERVER=0 python ...

  
  
Posted 3 years ago

We listen to you guys 🙂

  
  
Posted 3 years ago

Yes I already learned about it from this thread 🙂

  
  
Posted 3 years ago

AgitatedDove14 , well.. having the demo server by default lowers the effort threshold for trying ClearML and getting convinced it can deliver what it promises, and maybe test some simple custom use cases. I don't know what are the behind the scenes considerations in terms of costs of keeping the demo server running, but even having a leaner version where you limit the duration in which the experiment records are deleted after a week or few days sounds useful to me

  
  
Posted 3 years ago

AgitatedDove14 ,maybe worth updating the main Readme.md in the github.. if someone try to follow the instructions there it breaks

  
  
Posted 3 years ago

mostly out of curiosity, what is the motivation behind introducing this as an environment variable knob rather then a flag with some default in Task.init?

DepressedChimpanzee34 we will deprecate the demo server (not exactly sure when) as we have the free community one that gives better service and stores the data. It was originally set for easy on-boarding and testing, but I think that now the user experience might be better with using the community free tier.
Make sense ? btw: what do you think is a better newcomer experience?

  
  
Posted 3 years ago

AgitatedDove14 , mostly out of curiosity, what is the motivation behind introducing this as an environment variable knob rather then a flag with some default in Task.init?

  
  
Posted 3 years ago

maybe worth updating the main Readme.md in the github.. if someone try to follow the instructions there it breaks

Hmm I thought we already did, Yes you are absolutely correct, I'll make sure we do

  
  
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