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Is There A Way To Save The Models Completely On The Clearml Server? It Seems That Clearml Server Does Not Store The Models Or Artifacts Itself, But They Are Stored Somewhere Else (E.G., Aws S3-Bucket) Or On My Local Machine And Clearml Server Is Only Sto

Is there a way to save the models completely on the ClearML server?

It seems that ClearML Server does not store the models or artifacts itself, but they are stored somewhere else (e.g., AWS S3-bucket) or on my local machine and ClearML Server is only storing configuration parameters and previews (e.g., when the artifact is a pandas dataframe). Is that right?

  
  
Posted one year ago
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@<1523701083040387072:profile|UnevenDolphin73> : Thanks, but it does not mention the File Storage of "ClearML Hosted Server".

  
  
Posted one year ago

Exactly ๐Ÿ™‚

  
  
Posted one year ago

I can only say Iโ€™ve found ClearML to be very helpful, even given the documentation issue.
I think theyโ€™ve been working on upgrading it for a while, hopefully something new comes out soon.
Maybe @<1523701205467926528:profile|AgitatedDove14> has further info ๐Ÿ™‚

  
  
Posted one year ago

@<1523701070390366208:profile|CostlyOstrich36>

My training outputs a model as a zip file. The way I save and load the zip file to make up my model is custom made (no library is directly used), because we invented the entire modelling ourselves. What I did so far:

output_model = OutputModel(task=..., config_dict={...}, name=f"...")
output_model.update_weights("C:\io__path\...", is_package=True)

and I am trying to load the model in a different Python process with

mymodel = task.models['output'][0]
mymodel = mymodel.get_local_copy(extract_archive=True, raise_on_error=True)

and I get in the clearml cache a . training.pt file, which seems to be some kind of archive. Inside I have two files named data.pkl and version and a folder with the two files named 86922176 and 86934640 .

I am not sure how to proceed after trying to use pickle, zip and joblib. I am kind of at a loss. I suspect, my original zip file might be somehow inside, but I am not sure.

Sure, we could simply use the generic artifacts sdk, but I would like to use the available terminological methods and functions.

How should I proceed?

  
  
Posted one year ago

But we do use S3

  
  
Posted one year ago

By the way, output_uri is also documented as part of the Task.init() docstring ( None )

  
  
Posted one year ago

@<1523701087100473344:profile|SuccessfulKoala55> Also, I think that - in this case, but also in other cases - the issue is not just the documentation, but also the design of the SDK.

  
  
Posted one year ago

We're certainly working hard on improving the documentation (and I do apologize for the frustrating experience)

  
  
Posted one year ago

@<1523701087100473344:profile|SuccessfulKoala55> : That is the link I posted as well. But this should be mentioned also at places where it is about about the external or non-external storage. Also it should be mentioned everywhere we talk about models or artifacts etc. Not necessarily in details, but at least with a sentence and a link.

  
  
Posted one year ago

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Posted one year ago

I have already been trying to contribute (have three pull requests), but honestly I feel it is a bit weird, that I need to update a documentation about something I do not understand, while I actually try to evaluate if ClearML is the right tool for our company...

  
  
Posted one year ago

FWIW, we prefer to set it in the agentโ€™s configuration file, then itโ€™s all automatic

  
  
Posted one year ago

@<1523701083040387072:profile|UnevenDolphin73>

  
  
Posted one year ago

Well you could start by setting the output_uri to True in Task.init .

  
  
Posted one year ago

missing a configuration option

Which one, where? Any idea? I did not set output_uri - do I have to do that?

I am refering to

  
  
Posted one year ago

It is documented at None ... super deep in the code. If you don't know that output_uri in TASK's (!) init is relevant, you would never know...

  
  
Posted one year ago

Heh, good @<1523704157695905792:profile|VivaciousBadger56> ๐Ÿ˜
I was just repeating what @<1523701070390366208:profile|CostlyOstrich36> suggested, credits to him

  
  
Posted one year ago

@<1523701083040387072:profile|UnevenDolphin73> : If I do, what should I configure how?

  
  
Posted one year ago

I am not sure if it the fact the name of the file ends with .model is an issue - but that would be somewhat crazy design...

  
  
Posted one year ago

It should store it on the fileserver, perhaps you're missing a configuration option somewhere?

  
  
Posted one year ago

@<1523701083040387072:profile|UnevenDolphin73> : I do not see any way to download the model manually from the web app either. All I see is the link to the file on my harddrive (see shreenshot).

The second process says there is not file at all. I think, all that happened is that the update_weights only uploaded the location of the .zip file (which we denote as a .model file) on my harddrive, but not the file itself.
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Posted one year ago

@<1523701083040387072:profile|UnevenDolphin73> : I do not get this impression, because during update_weights I get the message

2023-02-21 13:54:49,185 - clearml.model - INFO - No output storage destination defined, registering local model C:\Users..._Demodaten_FF_2023-02-21_13-53-51.624362.model

  
  
Posted one year ago

@<1523704157695905792:profile|VivaciousBadger56> It seems like whatever you pickled in the zip file relies on some additional files that are not pickled.

  
  
Posted one year ago

@<1523701087100473344:profile|SuccessfulKoala55> I think I might have made a mistake earlier - but not in the code I posted before. Now, I have the following situation:

  • In my training Python process on my notebook I train the custom made model and put it on my harddrive as a zip file. Then I run the code
output_model = OutputModel(task=task, config_dict={...}, name=f"...")
output_model.update_weights(weights_filename=r"C:\path\to\mymodel.zip", is_package=True)
  1. I delete the "C:\path\to\mymodel.zip", because it would not be available on my colleagues' computers.

  2. In a second process, the model-inference process, I run

mymodel = task.models['output'][-1]
mymodel = mymodel.get_local_copy(extract_archive=True, raise_on_error=True)

and get the error

ValueError: Could not retrieve a local copy of model weights 8ad4db1561474c43b0747f7e69d241a6, failed downloading

I do not have an aws S3 instance or something like that. This is why I would like to store my mymodel.zip file directly on the ClearML Hosted Service. The model is around 2MB large.

How should I proceed?

  
  
Posted one year ago

@<1523701083040387072:profile|UnevenDolphin73> : I see. I did not make the connection that output_uri=True is what I was missing. I thought this was the default. But the default is actually "None", which is different than "True".

  
  
Posted one year ago

Hi @<1523704157695905792:profile|VivaciousBadger56> , you can configure Task.init(..., output_uri=True) and this will save the models to the clearml file server

  
  
Posted one year ago

From the one you sent - None

  
  
Posted one year ago

We'll try to add referenced to that in other places as well ๐Ÿ‘

  
  
Posted one year ago

Either? ๐Ÿ™‚

  
  
Posted one year ago

Hi all, sorry for not being so responsive today ๐Ÿ™

  
  
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